Did God lie, or is His Word indeed everlasting and unchanging? If obedience (shamar, shema: hear and obey) to ‘ALL the words I command you’ is ‘forever’ and ‘good and right in the sight of Yehovah,’ then why do many theologians say that we do not need to hear and obey ALL the commandments?
The Word of our God says, ‘it will be well with you FOREVER!’ When did ‘forever’ change?
Many wonder why I, a former Presbyterian minister, would leave the ‘church’ and begin to study Scripture without the filter of Christian theology. This verse in Deuteronomy, like 1000 others, completely demolishes 1800 years of Christian ‘religious tradition.’ That tradition teaches that parts of God’s ‘everlasting unchanging Word’ are not ‘everlasting’ and have ‘changed.’ Yet, the testimony of Scripture, over and over, is that these commandments are ‘forever.’
Here in this verse, besides being told that ‘it may go well with you forever,’ we are told that the commandments are ‘what is GOOD and RIGHT in the sight of the Lord your God.’
Does ‘what is good and right in the sight of the Lord’ change from age to age, or, should we believe ‘I, the Lord, do not change?’
Simply, when scrutinized, Christian theology has massive gaps of logic that the Word easily penetrates. As I illustrated once before, using a quote from Robert Van Kampen’s The Rapture Question Answered, Plain and Simple, it only takes one verse, in context, rightly understood, to disassemble a theological construct.
Deuteronomy 12:28 is one such verse, but it is supported by a number of other similar verses right around it that illustrate the same thing. Consider these:
Deu. 12:32 “Everything I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it.
Deu 13:4 You shall follow the Lord your God and fear Him; and you shall keep His commandments, listen to His voice, serve Him, and cling to Him.
Deu 13:18 if you will listen to the voice of the Lord your God, keeping all His commandments which I am commanding you today, and doing what is right in the sight of the Lord your God.
So, did God lie when His Word said, ”
28 “Be careful to listen to all these words which I command you, so that it may be well with you and your sons after you forever, for you will be doing what is good and right in the sight of the Lord your God.
Or, does Christian theology misunderstand because the theological filter used is a construct based not on the Word, (heaven forbid) but on tradition mixed with parts of the Word?
So much more to explore and write on the topic, but I’ll leave that to you….
Isaiah-‘to the Torah and to the testimony, if they speak not according to these there is no light in them’
My litmus test
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Pete, I have a question. When God saved Israel out of Egypt: he saved them,lamb’s blood on the doorpost, baptismed them in the sea, then he led them to the mountain to be given Torah before going up to the promised land. He did the same thing with Gentiles. They were saved then they were told to go to the synagogue to learn Torah. The question is this Since Sunday Christians are saved how do we get them to move beyond just being saved. Since, they are saved and they have had a God experience, they feel they don’t have to keep Torah.
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The ones in the wilderness were also rebels against the Torah which is why they did not enter the land until a generation arose that desired obedience and the Torah being written on their hearts. See Deu 6:5 and the 35+ references to ‘heart’ in that book.
Ultimately, it is a work of the Spirit, but we are His instrument in sharing and challenging to growth beyond the elementary doctrines.
Thanks Pete, I would also add besides sharing and challenging is to serve them and love them. Also, lots of prayer. Thats where I am being convicted. reading a good book titled Taming the Tongue sold by First Fruits of Zion. are you reading anything.
Yeah, currently working on two with three more on the nightstand.
but you know the answer…… it only applies to the ‘Jews’!