AoG Pastor Changes to Sabbath and Feast Observance. Why?

Following is a terrific video of Assemblies of God Pastor Scott Hillman humbly and compassionately giving testimony of why and how he and most of his congregation began keeping Shabbat and the Feasts of the Lord.  Interestingly, after many questions and deep discussion, his denomination allowed him to stay and Hillman reveals that he is not alone.  Apparently, there are a number of AoG congregations that have begun to take all of God’s Word seriously.

He is not alone.  I have recently heard that there are more than 100 Southern Baptist Missionaries who self identify as Messianic and walk as the Messiah did, keeping Sabbath, eating clean and keeping Feasts.  I personally know several pastors, one Southern Baptist, who have made the switch in the last year.

Our Father is doing something amazing in our day.  He is bringing His people back to the fullness of Truth and causing them to question doctrines that are not rooted in Scripture, only justified with logic.  May He be praised!!

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156 Responses to AoG Pastor Changes to Sabbath and Feast Observance. Why?

  1. It goes beyond my understanding that descriptive names like Messiah, Spirit, Father has to remain Hebrew – untranslated. “Messiah” (Hebrew); “Christos” (Greek) “Christ” (English). “Ruhach” (Hebrew) may not be translated to “Pneuma” (Greek) or “Spirit” (English). Now who/what determines this queer usage of vocabulary? It does’nt make sense at all!
    It is noticeable that pastor Hillman does not quote Scripture in context to confirm his understanding. Where he states that not one iota or title of the Torah will pass away, he forgets the context and, in doing so, makes a false statement.
    Mat 5:17 Do not think that I HAVE COME to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to destroy but TO FULFILL. 18 For truly I say to you, Till the heaven and the earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall in any way pass from the Law until ALL IS FULFILLED.
    Noticeably he avoids the Name Jesus!! Of course He is the Christ, the “anointed one” (Messiah), but He has a Name, Jesus. Paul used this Name when he said to the prison warden: “Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved”. So what is this avoidance of proper English in favour of Hebrew about?
    Scott obviously does not understand that Jesus is also the fulfilment of the Sabbath – which was one of the laws wherewith man was heavily laden. Mat 11:28 Come to Me all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I WILL GIVE YOU REST. 29 Take My yoke on you and learn of Me, for I am meek and lowly in heart, and YOU SHALL FIND REST to your souls.
    Heb 4:9 So then there remains a rest to the people of God. 10 For he who has entered into his rest, he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from His.
    Gal 3:10 For as many as are out of works of the Law, these are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the Book of the Law, to do them.” 11 But that no one is justified by the Law in the sight of God is clear, for, “The just shall live by faith.” 12 But the Law is not of faith; but, “The man who does these things shall live in them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, being made a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone having been hanged on a tree”);
    Gal 4:9 But now, knowing God, but rather are known by God, how do you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements to which you again desire to slave anew? 10 You observe days and months and times and years. 11 I fear for you, lest somehow I have labored among you in vain.
    And yes, you are right: pastor Scott successfully displayed the bulk of his arms, but it does not appear as if he has done any serious bodybuilding.

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    • Pete Rambo says:

      Gideon,

      Shalom and blessings,

      Here are a few items for you to consider:

      First, English wasn’t a language until 1600 years after Yeshua lived. So, regarding Paul, I can assure you, he did not say, ‘Believe on the Lord Jesus” in proper English. He used Hebrew. Yeshua! (See Acts 22:2) Further, Hebrew words have means that often cannot be fully expressed by English, so it is wise to learn and use the proper terms. While I believe He hears us in English, that is not His native tongue.

      Your understanding of Matthew 5:17-19 is flawed. First, ‘fulfilled’ from the Greek ‘pleroo’ in this verse does not and cannot mean ‘abolished’ or ‘do away with’ as much of Christendom implies if not outright saying it. He just said, ‘I did NOT come to ABOLISH.’ Secondly, He says not even a fancy decoration (serif: jot, tittle) on a letter would pass away until heaven and earth pas away. Heaven and earth are still here, therefore, every single solitary letter still stands, contrary to Christendom erasing whole chapters of the Torah. Thirdly, verse 19 tells that the way to be LEAST in the Kingdom is to do away with and teach to be done away with even the least commandment…. That qualifies whole denominations…

      Regarding the Sabbath, it is hardly something man was ‘heavy laden with.’ That is a lie from the pit. Here is one of hundreds of verses on the Sabbath:

      Isaiah 58:12-14New American Standard Bible (NASB)

      12
      “Those from among you will rebuild the ancient ruins;
      You will raise up the age-old foundations;
      And you will be called the repairer of the breach,
      The restorer of the [a]streets in which to dwell.
      Keeping the Sabbath

      13
      “If because of the sabbath, you turn your foot
      From doing your own pleasure on My holy day,
      And call the sabbath a delight, the holy day of the Lord honorable,
      And honor it, desisting from your own ways,
      From seeking your own pleasure
      And speaking your own word,
      14
      Then you will take delight in the Lord,
      And I will make you ride on the heights of the earth;
      And I will feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father,
      For

        the mouth of the Lord has spoken

      .”

      Scott is a repairer of the breach and a restorer of the streets on which to dwell. He is to be regarded as a hero for taking a bold stand for truth over man-made doctrines and traditions. Brother, speaking against the Sabbath is a very dangerous activity as it brings precisely the opposite of what these verses promise to those who keep…

      Yeshua ONLY taught the ways of His Father. Compare John 7:16 and Deuteronomy 18:18-19…

      When He said, ‘you shall find rest for your souls’ He was quoting the prophets and point the people back to the Torah, not to oral tradition. Jeremiah 6:16-19 says,

      16
      Thus says the Lord,
      “Stand by the ways and see and ask for the ancient paths,

        Where the good way is, and walk in it

      ;
      And you will find rest for your souls.
      But

        they said, ‘We will not walk in it

      .’
      17
      “And I set watchmen over you, saying,
      ‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’
      But they said, ‘We will not listen.’
      18
      “Therefore hear, O nations,
      And know, O congregation, what is among them.
      19
      “Hear, O earth: behold, I am bringing disaster on this people,
      The fruit of their [a]plans,
      Because

        they have not listened to My words

      ,
      And
      as for My Torah, they have rejected it also.

      Brother, Yeshua was at creation (Col. 1:16). Where was He when the Torah was given at Sinai? James (4:12) said He is the Lawgiver. I’ve covered this multiple times from multiple angles… See this.

      Your Galatians 3 quote is taken out of context. He redeemed us from the CURSE of the Law, not from the Law itself. Breaking the Law brings a curse. He paid the price for my guilt. That means now I can walk in newness of life and

        obedience

      , it is not a freedom that allows me to go break the Law again!

      Your Galatians 4 passage is also taken out of context. The Greek words for ‘days, months, and years’ are NEVER used to refer to the Feasts of the Lord, only to pagan holidays. Further, the Feasts of the Lord are NEVER called weak or beggarly things. In fact, we are explicitly told in Scripture that these will be celebrated in the Millennial Kingdom!

      Brother, you have some serious studying to do. I recommend starting on my Apologetics page. The Angel of the Lord is an excellent place to start.

      Shalom.

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      • gideon981 says:

        Pete Rambo,
        You say “Your understanding of Matthew 5:17-19 is flawed. First, ‘fulfilled’ from the Greek ‘pleroo’ in this verse does not and cannot mean ‘abolished’ or ‘do away with…’”. You are right so far! But you forget that Jesus said “until all is fulfilled”. If the Law did not find its fulfilment in Jesus Christ, why don’t you offer animals anymore? Why don’t you sprinkle the blood of animals for the cleansing from sin anymore? It has been fulfilled (‘pleroo’-ed) in Jesus the Christ. His blood fulfilled, and therefore did away with – abolished – the offering of animals and their blood.
        So you see, Pete, yóúr focus is on the passing away of heaven and earth (which, of course till stands!). That is the flaw in your understanding. But Jesus said that the Law will remain standing until all has been fulfilled. To put it differently: the law will only hold, (even though heaven and earth may pass away) until it has been fulfilled.
        Because Jesus has fulfilled the Law, we read in Gal.3:10: For as many as are out of works of the Law, these are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the Book of the Law, to do them.” :13 – Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, being made a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone having been hanged on a tree”). :23 – But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. :24 – “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ…”
        If you place yourself under the Law, to seek you salvation in keeping it, you are replacing the true means of salvation (faith in Jesus Christ) with your own works – which cannot bring salvation. That is why such a person is accursed of God.
        So, even as a child gains knowledge from his schoolmaster (Pedagôgos, Greek for “leader of children”), that knowledge guides him in his adult life. Even so the Law has now reached “adulthood” (fulfilment) in Jesus Christ, and serves as our guidelines, but not as our salvation or righteousness before God. Now we do not seek our salvation in keeping the Law anymore – it has now become our guide to knowing God’s principles, in which the believer in Jesus Christ delights.
        Further, concerning the “weak and beggarly things” of Gal.4:9: The “weak” means also “without strength” – which holds true of the Law no more having the strength to save us. As for “beggarly”, it also has the meaning of “diminishing” or “cringing”. You don’t have to see it in a demeaning sense. It merely means that the Law has no more strength and has lost its power in the light of the saving grace of Jesus.

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      • Pete Rambo says:

        Gideon,

        If the Law did not find its fulfilment in Jesus Christ, why don’t you offer animals anymore? Why don’t you sprinkle the blood of animals for the cleansing from sin anymore? It has been fulfilled (‘pleroo’-ed) in Jesus the Christ. His blood fulfilled, and therefore did away with – abolished – the offering of animals and their blood.

        There are multiple problems with your argument here.

        1. Paul offered sacrifice in the Temple (Acts 21:26) and kept feasts of the Lord (Acts 20:6, 16) demonstrating that HE did not think that Yeshua had abolished them. Further, in Hebrews 8:4, the author says that the priests were offering the sacrifices ‘lawfully.’

        2. Ezekiel 43 and 44 clearly speak of a future (unfulfilled prophecy) Temple wherein the ‘fat and the blood’ will be offered.

        3. The reason sacrifice is not offered today has nothing to do with Yeshua fulfilling the sacrifice, it has everything to do with the fact that there is no Temple or priesthood, therefore, it cannot be offered lawfully.

        Now, as to parsing out Yeshua’s words in Matthew 5:17-19 so that each action of His fulfills some part of the Law and then you can erase it from your book… that totally flies in the face of ‘not one jot or tittle will pass from the Law until ALL is accomplished.’ The Torah is a single unit and stand together until heaven and earth pass.

        the Law has now reached “adulthood” (fulfilment) in Jesus Christ, and serves as our guidelines, but not as our salvation or righteousness before God. Now we do not seek our salvation in keeping the Law anymore

        Wrong again on multiple counts.

        1. I have NEVER said the Law saves. I have said, as Scripture repeats often, the Torah is God’s standards of righteousness. When we stand before Him in judgment, it is the Torah by which we will be judged.

        2. The prophets and patriarchs did not seek their salvation in the Law. That is a false Christian idea meant to scare people away from God’s standards of righteousness.

        Yeshua’s saving grace is only to restore us to Himself so that we might walk in the righteousness of His standards. It is not so that we have freedom to reject His Law… That is classic antinomianism.

        Brother, you need to come out of the false doctrines that you have inherited. they do not stand up to the scrutiny of Scripture.

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      • SYDNEY MPOTALINGAH says:

        Amen, my brother.

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    • Lenora says:

      Hi Gideon, i just want to encourage you to keep on searching all the Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation ,most importantly, with the humble/ teachable heart of a believer in Messiah guided by the Set Apart Spirit of Truth. When our Creator sent His Son to redeem us back to Him, He made a way for our sins (transgression of His Law/Torah) to be forgiven and cleansed so that we no longer walk in darkness but walk as His Son walked in the Light/Truth/Torah. Read all of 1John Chapters 1 and 2 carefully and humbly, all of Psalm 119 and then begin to connect ,as the Set Apart Spirit leads you, all the Word of our Father from Genesis to Revelation to discover who the Light is, who the Word is. I know its not easy to lay down your life for His sake, to give up anything that He asks of you, especially things we held dear to our heart, believed in and taught as I did to my children and many others in the church system. But I truly believe, if we are to obey the Command to “Love Him with All our Heart” ,that there is nothing we would withhold from Him (our habits, our traditions, our livelihood, even our families should He ask) to follow Him and His design for living.Look and listen carefully to our Messiah’s Words about who His family is, what He says about family and about willingness to do His Father’s will. The world says you shouldnt have to give up your life to gain it back. This is the exact opposite of the Word of our Heavenly Father, Creator of the Universe. I hear this AoG pastor’s heart to be “willing” to lay down his pride, his livelihood to follow His Messiah and His Heavenly Father. When we Love our Creator with ALL our heart, then we will lay down our pride, humbly letting Him lead us through His Son/His Word and with the power of the Set Apart Spirit of Truth. We are being called out of the ways of this world, out of Babylon;to see the lies we have inherited, ,to learn our Creator’s and His Son’s Names again , and to no longer use pagan deities names’,titles,traditions to worship. Jeremiah 16:19-21, Hosea 2:16-19, 4:6 Deut 12:4,8 , Leviticus 20:1-26. He sets us apart – not when it is convenient -not when it is popular. We were born to be WITH HIM(a pure and Set-Apart Creator). Yet He gives us the choice whether to follow His Plan/Way/Torah/Son-to be overcomers, “divergent” if you will, set-apart, enduring, searching for Him and finding Him. I dare not be a fool who defiantly says my way is good. Wisdom, Life and Truth are for those who fear Him (the most powerful force in the universe), who dare not go against His Word and are willing to overcome this world and its lies, giving up their own selfish prideful way . 2 Timothy 3:1-12 and 4:3 is where we are at. Jeremiah 10:23.Pray for our Pastors. Sincerely, Lenora

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      • gideon981 says:

        Hi Leonora. You obviously believe in both the Old Testament ánd the New Testament, which we call the Bible, God’s inerrant Word, the Sciptures.
        You pasted part of what I wrote above, but you have made no effort to answer any of my questions. In stead you insist on laying aside pride, lies, tradition etc., none of which I am plagued with. I am merely trying to understand your logic.
        You insist on naming Jesus as Messiah. Of course He is the Hebrew Messiah, the Greek Christos, the English Christ, all of which means “ANOINTED One”. But why insist on NAMING Him Messiah? That is his office, his role, his function, just as Saul, David and others were ANOINTED to the office of being king.
        Is the New Testament now at fault by calling Him by His Name, JESUS? After all, the Bible says that God commanded: “You SHALL call Him Jesus!” Why do you avoid the Name that God commanded? Or rather (if you will insist on sticking to strictly Biblical vocabulary), ᾿Ιησοῦς ? Why not name the apostle Peter (“Petros”) “Apostle” – after all, that is what his office/role/function was!
        If you insist on calling Jesus by the name “Messiah” (“Anointed One”), why then not be consistent and call God only “Yahweh” or “Elohîm” – depending on the context. Why speak about the Father in stead of “Abbah”? Why speak about “Creator” in stead of the Hebrew “Bârâ”?
        And who/what is your “Set Apart Spirit? I do not find it anywhere in Scripture. I do find “Ruâch” (Hebrew for Spirit) in the Old Testament. I find “the Spirit of God”, “the Holy Spirit” (Hagios Pneuma in Greek) and the like, who is in fact “God, the Holy Spirit”. So why don’t you (if you want to stick to the Hebrew) call him “Ruâch”? Why “Spirit Set Apart”?
        What I’m trying to tell you? Be consistent! Stick to your accepted principles! Stick to Hebrew if you will. Even learn Hebrew and speak it. But why avoid the Name Jesus, as commanded by God Himself? You have nowhere explained where/who you got the right from to change that!
        You are applying ever-differing rules of naming, and you call it the truth. Everything you don’ t agree with, you call lies, pride, tradition etc., etc.
        Your logic speaks of a lack of true searching and studying of Scripture.
        I challenge you to prove, with Scripture, that the Messiah, the Christ, was NOT named Jesus. But please remember then, that calling other people liars (people who are seriously searching the Scriptures) proofs nothing. And making broad, sweeping statements without proof from Scripture, also proves nothing.

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      • Pete Rambo says:

        Gideon,

        the Bible says that God commanded: “You SHALL call Him Jesus!” Why do you avoid the Name that God commanded?

        God never commanded ‘Jesus.’ That is a transliteration of a transliteration of the Hebrew “Yeshua.” His proper name is/was Yeshua.

        I’ll let Lenora handle the rest.

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    • Ted A Sames II says:

      The Messiah Yeshua is not done yet. Only about 1/2 of the prophecies have taken place. You sound like a Jew thinking “that’s all folks”. NOPE, His job has a lot more to go. The main job for the Messiah–as He has promised–is to gather His people together. The Church scuffs this off but He has promised to bring His Torah Observant Believers back to the Promised Land where we belong. Think deeply: “Gentiles” actually following Torah Commandments? That’s a move of God and you do not see this–it went right over your head. The Church–and you—are violated one of the 10 Commandments right off the bat. We are to observe Shabbat on Friday night to Saturday. What will you tell God? You will probably say, “Well, that’s what I was taught in Church!”. NOPE, you just learned it from me. Now, do some research about how Constantine changed Sat to Sun to appease his pagan followers. Gd did not change Sat worship to Sunday worship–man did. Did you know most of the Puritans worshipped on Sat? The Devil hates Shabath worshippers.

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    • Larry C. says:

      Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One – Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”

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  2. Jeanette Zook says:

    I just want to know where his church is located.

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  3. D Spencer says:

    Could you please post a list of Assembly of God churches that are not following Sabbath and following the Holy days/feasts?? We are located in Iowa. We have been leading a small fellowship of believers for the past few years but would love to connect with more like minded believers.

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  4. aagrove9 says:

    In short, Jesus was the fulfillment of the Old Testament laws. Of course Jesus didn’t come to destroy the law, He came to fulfill it, which He did on Calvary upon His death and then upon His resurrection and ultimately His ascension to heaven to sit on the right hand of the Throne of God. Jesus changed everything and fulfilled everything that was prophesied of Him. Jesus became the temple, thus His declaration of the temple being destroyed in 70AD. Our bodies, His saints, His children, those of us that have been born again, becoming the ‘body of Christ’ have become the temple, thus fulfilling the Scripture saying that Christ abides in us and us in Christ. Jesus came to free all mankind from sin and to offer eternal salvation to all those that answer the Father’s call. Only those that proclaim that God came in the flesh, that Jesus is the Son of God will be saved, and that through faith, believe and action upon believing. The Scripture, (New Testament) is full of instruction for the born again Christian to follow in achieving those requirements. Note: The laws that Jesus came to fulfill were the laws relating to the Temple, animal sacrifices, the feasts, the blood of atonement to cover the sins etc. Jesus came to fulfill all of that. Just as the Sabbath is kept in Him, Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath was a day of rest, not to do any work or even worshipping as many believe in doing even to this day. The Sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus Christ has we come to Him for rest, just as the law said the Sabbath was for, a day of rest. Once again, man is continuing to be deceived in so many ways of some smooth talking man, and those with itching ears will be swept away if they do not remain steadfast in the True Gospel of Jesus Christ as Paul begins in Galatians Chapter one. May God bless those who diligently seek and adhere to His Holy Word and to keep the fight of faith in Christ Jesus!

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    • Pete Rambo says:

      aagrove9,

      Shalom and welcome, I pray you take the time to interact and study this thing out a little.

      Honestly, I am not sure where to begin with your statement, so let me offer this:

      The idea that because ‘Yeshua/Jesus kept the Law, so I don’t have to’ is patently absurd. If the son of the mayor of my town drives through town and perfectly keeps all traffic laws, he doesn’t do away with those laws, he simply demonstrates how to be obedient.

      Jeremiah 31:33 clearly says that in the New Covenant, God will write His Torah on our hearts! This is exactly quoted in Hebrews 8 and 10 and also covered in Ezekiel 36:27 among numerous other places. Sir (or, madam) the rules of the Kingdom are Torah. The rules right now, Torah.

      Please, study it out. Here is one article to challenge you: https://natsab.com/2016/05/07/the-single-word-that-disassembles-much-christian-doctrine/

      Blessings.

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    • gideon981 says:

      aagrove9, I fully agree with you. Allow me to add 2 Scriptures:
      1) Mat 11:28 Come to Me all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
      2) Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 4:9 So then there remains a rest to the people of God. 4:10 For he who has entered into his rest, he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from His.

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    • Lisa Grace says:

      It is one of the Ten Commandments. The only one that is “Holy” and the only one with the word “Remember.” You wouldn’t dream of throwing any of the other nine out. Yeshua clearly said “IF you love me, keep my commandments.” Keeping Sabbath is not negotiable just like lying, killing, or idolatry isn’t either.

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  5. gideon981 says:

    Pete Rambo,
    I see that it is convenient for you to moderate and scrap my well-meant questions and arguments which do not appear on this page. There is no blasphemy, criticism or the like in my postings. You also conveniently tell people on this page about my misunderstanding and misinterpretations (e.g. “pleroo”) but my explanation is nowehere to be seen.

    Is this your way of “keeping YHWH’s Laws”? You are apparently only interested in those arguments that you are able to counter or compiling an answer to.

    I challenge you to publish and reply to the 2 postings that you have deleted.

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  6. gideon981 says:

    Hi Leonora. You obviously believe in both the Old Testament ánd the New Testament, which we call the Bible, God’s inerrant Word, the Sciptures.
    You pasted part of what I wrote above, but you have made no effort to answer any of my questions. In stead you insist on laying aside pride, lies, tradition etc., none of which I am plagued with. I am merely trying to understand your logic.
    You insist on naming Jesus as Messiah. Of course He is the Hebrew Messiah, the Greek Christos, the English Christ, all of which means “ANOINTED One”. But why insist on NAMING Him Messiah? That is his office, his role, his function, just as Saul, David and others were ANOINTED to the office of being king.
    Is the New Testament now at fault by calling Him by His Name, JESUS? After all, the Bible says that God commanded: “You SHALL call Him Jesus!” Why do you avoid the Name that God commanded? Or rather (if you will insist on sticking to strictly Biblical vocabulary), ᾿Ιησοῦς ? Why not name the apostle Peter (“Petros”) “Apostle” – after all, that is what his office/role/function was!
    If you insist on calling Jesus by the name “Messiah” (“Anointed One”), why then not be consistent and call God only “Yahweh” or “Elohîm” – depending on the context. Why speak about the Father in stead of “Abbah”? Why speak about “Creator” in stead of the Hebrew “Bârâ”?
    And who/what is your “Set Apart Spirit? I do not find it anywhere in Scripture. I do find “Ruâch” (Hebrew for Spirit) in the Old Testament. I find “the Spirit of God”, “the Holy Spirit” (Hagios Pneuma in Greek) and the like, who is in fact “God, the Holy Spirit”. So why don’t you (if you want to stick to the Hebrew) call him “Ruâch”? Why “Spirit Set Apart”?
    What I’m trying to tell you? Be consistent! Stick to your accepted principles! Stick to Hebrew if you will. Even learn Hebrew and speak it. But why avoid the Name Jesus, as commanded by God Himself? You have nowhere explained where/who you got the right from to change that!
    You are applying ever-differing rules of naming, and you call it the truth. Everything you don’ t agree with, you call lies, pride, tradition etc., etc.
    Your logic speaks of a lack of true searching and studying of Scripture.
    I challenge you to prove, with Scripture, that the Messiah, the Christ, was NOT named Jesus. But please remember then, that calling other people liars (people who are seriously searching the Scriptures) proofs nothing. And making broad, sweeping statements without proof from Scripture, also proves nothing.

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  7. gideon981 says:

    Pete Rambo,
    You say “Your understanding of Matthew 5:17-19 is flawed. First, ‘fulfilled’ from the Greek ‘pleroo’ in this verse does not and cannot mean ‘abolished’ or ‘do away with…’”. You are right so far! But you forget that Jesus said “until all is fulfilled”. If the Law did not find its fulfilment in Jesus Christ, why don’t you offer animals anymore? Why don’t you sprinkle the blood of animals for the cleansing from sin anymore? It has been fulfilled (‘pleroo’-ed) in Jesus the Christ. His blood fulfilled, and therefore did away with – abolished – the offering of animals and their blood.
    So you see, Pete, yóúr focus is on the passing away of heaven and earth (which, of course still stands!). That is the flaw in your understanding. But Jesus said that the Law will remain standing until all has been fulfilled. To put it differently: the law will only hold, (even though heaven and earth may pass away) until it has been fulfilled.
    Because Jesus has fulfilled the Law, we read in Gal.3:10: For as many as are out of works of the Law, these are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the Book of the Law, to do them.” :13 – Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, being made a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone having been hanged on a tree”). :23 – But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. :24 – “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ…”
    If you place yourself under the Law, to seek you salvation in keeping it, you are replacing the true means of salvation (faith in Jesus Christ) with your own works – which cannot bring salvation. That is why such a person is accursed of God.
    So, even as a child gains knowledge from his schoolmaster (Pedagôgos, Greek for “leader of children”), that knowledge guides him in his adult life. Even so the Law has now reached “adulthood” (fulfilment) in Jesus Christ, and serves as our guidelines, but not as our salvation or righteousness before God. Now we do not seek our salvation in keeping the Law anymore – it has now become our guide to knowing God’s principles, in which the believer in Jesus Christ delights.
    Further, concerning the “weak and beggarly things” of Gal.4:9: The “weak” means also “without strength” – which holds true of the Law, no more having the strength to save us. As for “beggarly”, it also has the meaning of “diminishing” or “cringing”. You don’t have to see it in a demeaning sense. It merely means that the Law has no more strength and has lost its power in the light of the saving grace of Jesus.

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    • Lenora says:

      Hi again, Gideon, Thank you for replying to my previous post. I was also having trouble in being able to find my post and your reply until today. I’ll do my best to answer your questions with Scripture as much as possible. However, I do believe that we have the beauty of being able to research much more of man’s history (including the etimology of our words) than ever before at the touch of our fingers. I’ve learned that many of our words even for days and months are from pagan dieties. But none of this matters if it doesn’t matter to our Creator. What does His Word in Psalms, Proverbs , James and Matthew (to name a few places) have to say about the importance of our words? So, I researched the origins of the words we are accustomed to using every day especially the origin of the words god, jesus and lord and found that they in fact do have pagan origins. I believe strongly that we were created and that we did not “make” ourselves. And that this Creator who made the heavens and the earth and man also has a design for how the creation is to live outlined in His Word and fully revealed in His Son, the living Word. This outline is His Commands, His Law(Torah) right rulings, statutes(see all of Psalm 119, Romans 3:31) that do agree with one another from Genesis to Revelation. He does not want us to use in any way, shape or form including our language,even a hint of how man used idolic,adulterous, pagan practices, names, traditions or customs to worship their dieties (Exodus 20:5, 32:5, Deuteronomy 12:31). We have inherited lies Jeremiah 16:19-21.Study the hebrew translation of the word “angel” especially in Exodus 23:20-23. Look at the attributes given to this messenger…Yahuweh’s Name is in Him, obey His voice, He will guard you and bring you into a place which Yahuweh has prepared…..Could this messenger be His Son, Yahushua? Check out Psalm 68:4 in seversl translations and see how in some it says His name is JAH or Yahuweh or the LORD. Why does king james version use JAH here and not in Isaiah 42:8? So I ask myself, who would benefit from all this name changing?from removing the Father’s name from the Scriptures (confusing the masses between the distinction of the Father and His Son by calling them LORD and Lord?). I keep,referenceand compare several translations that I grew up with and have acquired over the years. But, the translation that has helped me the most, I found about 6 years ago from the Institute for Scripture Research entitled The Scriptures. It seems to be the best so far at man’s attempt to returning the original Hebrew spelling of our Heavenly Father back to the Scriptures. It also uses Elohim, messenger for angel, a Hebrew spelling for Yahushua and many other hebrew renderings. I know I haven’t addressed all your questions in this reply but will try to in future responses as time permits. We will continue to search the scriptures daily. Lenora

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      • gideon981 says:

        Thank you Lenora. I can understand if you say that the god has a pagan origin. As I understand it, most pagans, heathens or whatever, through all ages and world-wide, are acquainted with the word “god” and have been attaching it to their gods. I don’t want to make that another time-consuming issue. However, I’m satisfied and at peace about whom I am addressing when I worship the Person I know as God.

        What is less comprehensible is that you say that the name Jesus is of pagan origin too. Immediately I want to ask: “So what?” Of course there are many people called by names that pagans have also been using – so what does it matter?

        But to come nearer to our times: If the Bible then clearly calls the Messiah, the Christ, by the name Jesus, it shows me that (if as you say it has a pagan origin) its O.K. if the name is in fact known to, or even used by pagans. It shows me that there is no dark, obscure stigma attach to a name of “pagan origin”. The Bible shows its O.K. (even mandatory) that He is called Jesus. The Greek clearly says Ἰησοῦς. So are we going to argue against the Word of God?

        I do not understand if you want to argue against use of the Name Jesus, it being “of pagan origin”.. I’m trying very hard to understand the point you want to make, but I fail. I will appreciate your clarification.

        Then there is also my previous question: that you to prove, with Scripture, that the Messiah, the Christ, was NOT named Jesus.(Ἰησοῦς).

        Until then, regards.

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      • Pete Rambo says:

        Gideon,

        I already answered the question. Jesus is an English word and a transliteration that comes through Latin and Greek from the Hebrew name He was given by Hebrew parents.

        Does He answer to ‘Jesus?’. Yes, but that is not His proper given name.

        His proper Hebrew name is Yeshua or Yehoshua, translated as Joshua in common English. Yeshua means ‘ salvation.’. Means a lot more when you read : ‘you shall call His name Yeshua, for He will save His people…’.

        Yeshua means something, Jesus means …..?

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      • gideon981 says:

        Saviour – the Worker of salvation! The Bible teaches me, and deems it sufficient and proper, to call Him Jesus (Ἰησοῦς).

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      • Lenora says:

        Thanks Pete for your thoughts. Scripture builds upon scripture with its depths of meaning immeasurable, yet we are commanded to search. With both the Father’s Name and His Son’s Name beginning with Yah, I believe that scripture is confirmed when Yahuweh says in Exodus 23:21 “My Name is in him” and His Son, Yahushua says 2x in John 17:11 and 12 “protect them(vs 11, and protected them(vs 12) by your Name, the Name you gave Me.” Whenever a phrase is repeated in Scripture, it usually is something we should pay attention to. Philippians 2:9 says that Yahuweh gave Him the Name that is above all names. I don’t believe that it was a Greek or Roman or English name,. And that if this name is above all other nanes, it must be a very important, special and powerful name that should not change or be changed from age to age nor from culture to culture. If any given name should be ageless, it should be the Father’s only begotten Son’s Name. I just can’t see the name Jesus in the word god. And again,I also believe that the Word of Yahuweh often carries multiple depths of UNCONTRADICTING meaning. The Father’s “name” being in the Son can also mean, at the very same time without contradiction, that His power, His strength is also in His Son.

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      • gideon981 says:

        So the New Testament is in error with the name Ἰησοῦς ?

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  8. Dave says:

    Pete,

    Actually. Yehoshua’ does not mean “salvation”. Also, notice that Yehoshua’ is not the full spelling of His name. There is actually supposed to be an “h” at the end. It is common in the Hebrew to drop the “h” and add an apostrophe to show it is a contraction. The God of the Old Testament was called Yehowah (YHWH; or, more accurately: IAUA, since Josephus stated that the tetragrammaton is actually all vowel sounds) and Yehoshuah means “Yehowah saves”. You can see the original name in the spelling of second name. The “shu” part by itself means: “saves”.

    But you are also correct that Jesus is not His proper name (though He does answer to it for the benefit of those who don’t know any different). Proper (i.e., people’s) names aren’t supposed to change when you spell them in a different language — you just substitute the Hebrew letters with Greek letters but the pronunciation should remain the same (if you know better). It is common, though, that even when you just substitute letter-for-letter that native speakers in the new language will mispronounce a person’s name because they use the usual pronunciation of those letters as they would sound in the new language.

    Sincerely,
    Dave

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  9. Lenora says:

    Gideon, ANY translation of the old and new testsments that have AND EVEN CONTINE to use substituted names for the given, original, Hebrew names of our Creator and His Son are indeed wrong and walk on dangerous ground by taking away from and adding to His Word, especially in the substitution of their powerful Set Apart Names. Jeremiah 16:19-21 (google the meaning and origin of the word “lord”)Lenora

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    • gideon981 says:

      Here’s what I don’t understand, Lenora: You quote freely from the New Testament to prove your points, bu yet you say all those writers are wrong and walking on dangerous ground by substituting Messiah with other names for Jesus. doesn’t make any sense to me. So I don’t think I’ll bother with any further discussions.

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  10. markwise07 says:

    Having observed the Old Testament holy days for nearly 30 years, I find the following blog post a great explanation of whether Christians should celebrate the Israelite holy days:
    http://www.ligonier.org/blog/should-we-christians-celebrate-jewish-feasts-old-testament/

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    • Pete Rambo says:

      Shalom and welcome,

      I appreciate the link to that article. Having read it, I will have to address it in a blog post.

      I grew up in a house that subscribed to Ligonier magazine and later was a Reformed Presbyterian pastor… All that to say, I think Sproul has some things right and some things wrong n the article.

      Blessings in Yeshua,

      Pete

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  11. MaryEllen Hicks says:

    Love what God is doing showing his people about his feast and Yeshua who is the Messiah about his Sabbath which is his I wish all Christians would come into this revealition of knowledge and understanding of his Torah

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  13. Carlene Wells Rogers says:

    What ever happened to John 3:16. Use your different words, go out and blow your horn or whatever, be Jewish, fine. Anybody who believes the JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD and follows the ten commandments the best they can will have everlasting life.

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    • Pete Rambo says:

      Carlene,

      Shalom and welcome to the blog.

      Thank you for your comment. I’d like to offer a few thoughts…

      First, where was Jesus when the Torah was given on Mt. Sinai?

      Second, will the ‘bus’ that actually comes look like the ‘bus’ you are expecting? This little missive asks some interesting questions worthy of pondering.

      Lastly, I would challenge… How many things that are Biblical, or God ordained, have we errantly labeled ‘Jewish?’ How many things does God say are ‘forever’ yet we have made excuses for why we think they are not? One word disassembles much Christian doctrine

      I bless you and pray you will dig in and ask some hard questions. Test everything against the Scriptures.

      And, since tomorrow night is the beginning of the Feast of Booths/Tabernacles/Sukkot, what a great time to open your Bible and carefully read every passage you can find about the feast and see what it says…

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    • Dale Owens says:

      I have more information about your statement… “Je’sus” the son of God” Email me for
      that information.

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  15. Dr. Steve Raulerson says:

    Outward observance doesn’t always square with inner disposition…the feast I choose is that one instituted by Christ Himself, often called The Last Supper (which most certainly was not “last”) but which I call the First Supper…

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    • Pete Rambo says:

      Steve, respectfully, I believe quite the opposite. Outward observance, or non- reveals something of the heart. Once we know what the Father expects, our response to it reveals compliance or rebellion.

      Yeshua kept His Father’s instructions and calls us to walk as He walked doing outwardly as little children the simple instructions HE gave on Mt Sinai.

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  16. I love seeing Christians waking up and learning to pay attention to what they’re reading in plain English.

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  17. Lesia Barnes says:

    I am a firm believer in keeping the Lord’s commandments and feasts. I love it that they have bee. Led by Gid to learn the truth as i have and to worship on the true sabbath. Wish i lived closer so that i could attend. I hope that the AoG i did attend starts to do thus to because our pastor really is a man of God.

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  18. Donna says:

    Blessings dear Brothers and sisters from Beth El Shalom Messianic congregation in New Port Richey, FL. May you reap the many benefits of following Yeshua faithfully.

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  19. Jo Ann Gantt says:

    I am not Jewish, I do not read Hebrew or any language other than English. If my Bible translates His name to Jesus, then that is good enough for me. I do believe that God sent his only begotten Son to die on the cross for me and that whosoever believe in him will have eternal life. When I call on the name Jesus, He answers me, He guides me, He loves me. Amen and God Bless You All.

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    • Pete Rambo says:

      Jo Ann,

      Welcome.

      I believe what you have said, but I also know that as He reveals truth, we become accountable for it. It’s like coming out of kindergarten and moving into elementary school. One of those early steps is learning the Messiah has a given name that has a meaning.

      I encourage you to dig deeper in the Scriptures and find that when we are adopted into the house, there are certain ‘house rules’ that are incumbent upon us. Many are ‘perpetual’ and ‘everlasting’ inspite of Christendom’s ignoring or explaining them away.

      May you be challenged toward a greater depth of understanding.

      Shalom.

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  20. Jen says:

    I also would love to know of AG churches keeping the sabbath, biblical holidays instead of pop culture holidays historically rooted in pagan tradition. We have a local messianic church but they are not full gospel. As somebody who God radically healed in the name of Jesus, I cannot go to a church who will not say the name of God and does not believe the gifts are for today. One thought I have to share is that the Jews were waiting for messiah because they knew any sacrifice was not enough. It simply pointed to the supreme sacrifice, Jesus. When he walked the earth his name was Yehoshua, (God saves) shortened to Yeshua. If we know his name why wouldn’t we use it. Oh how offended people get! It doesn’t matter etc. Well read the word. Does it matter to God? Traditions of men is why we get so offended. I was healed in the name of Jesus, so it isn’t a legalistic thing. Its just a respect thing. If somebody decided it was too much trouble to use my name when they knew it and instead called me a translation of my name in a different language, Id probably feel disrespected a little. So don’t criticize this man for using the word messiah. He’s doing it so those unversed in Jesus’ name when he walked the earth wont be lost. Lets not make mountains out of mole hills! Personally I want to worship God in the way He asked me to. When it says in My Name, I want to say ok in Your Name. When He says these are my holy days to keep forever I want to say OK. The biblical holidays are all prophetic. The spring holidays were fufilled in Jesus first coming but the fall holidays are about his second coming. We threw them out and what they foreshadow hasn’t even happened yet. Plus we are indeed a stumbling block to the Jews accepting Jesus because we wiped our bums with the Old testament like it was Sears and Roebuck rather than seeing the whole bible as Truth. When the disciples were sharing the gospel, the new testament wasn’t written yet. They were sharing the Old testament. When they made new converts, they asked them to abstain from two things and told them to go hear the Torah read in the synagogue every sabbath. Then as a sect of Judiasm, the early christian gathered together separately on another day of the week. Think about it for a while. We read the bible through the filter of the religion, take off the rose colored glasses and see what the bible really says. Read it with new eyes and let it mean what it says rather than what somebody told you it means.

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  21. pablo says:

    Shalom, I´m Pablo from Uruguay, South America. The way I see it, the core of the matter is to set a day apart to dedicate it to the Lord, praise and worship him in our community. I love it if some people want to do it on a Saturday, let them go; but in truth, that is no more shabbatical than doing it on a Sunday. We can not miss the point. The Ruach has testified to the church since that Shavuot in the book of Acts. So, we might be in a time when we want to reconsider the roots of Christanism and see its connections to Judaism, That couldn´t make me happier. I believe the Ruach is doing this too. But, BUT, let´s not despise the brothers and sisters who set apart Sunday. I find it insulting and arrogant when the article says that these AoG congregations are taking all of God`s Word seriously. That is disrespectful to the rest of the congregations in the world that keep a day to honor God, getting together to read his Word, pray to him, praise and worship him. I don´t believe the Lord feels or believes these other millions of people are not taking his Word seriously because they get together on Sunday instead of doing it on… Saturday? or 7pm on Fridays? The same applies to the Feasts, for in truth, in their core sense, the church has always kept the 7 feasts commanded by the Lord, each and every one of them. Not seeing that, is not seeing the relevance of the work of Mashiaj in the church and through the church throughout the centuries. And that is something to be careful with, for might we be ignoring the work of the Ruach, we might be committing blasphemy. Having said this, I love the fact that these congregations are getting closer to Judaism in each and every way. since Judaism has been and will always be the only sacred culture in history.

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    • Pete Rambo says:

      Shalom, Pablo.

      Bienvenido y mucho gusto conocerle!

      Thank you for your comment, and I appreciate your candor.

      I hear what you are saying regarding being careful with our words and I am learning to articulate carefully so as to be as unoffensive as possible. At the same time, I have learned that it really does not matter what I say. Because I do not fit the little ‘Church box’ I will be ill received by some. It is just an occupational hazard of exposing falsehood.

      Please allow me to address a specific comment you make:

      the core of the matter is to set a day apart to dedicate it to the Lord, praise and worship him in our community. I love it if some people want to do it on a Saturday, let them go; but in truth, that is no more shabbatical than doing it on a Sunday.

      Christendom teaches what is sometimes termed ‘the one in seven principle.’ By this they claim that we only need to keep one day in seven, yet Scripture NEVER says this. Scripture clearly states, over and over, ‘(on) the seventh day.’

      Christendom claims that we cannot truly know which day is the ‘seventh’ but they incriminate themselves by adamantly declaring that Sunday is the ‘first day’ of the week. To further expose the Christian error, there is not a single whiff of controversy regarding what day is the seventh in all of Jewish history. And, more than 100 languages worldwide, refer to Saturday as ‘Sabado’ or some similar derivative. See the comments on this article.

      Bless you, Pablo. I pray you dig further into the matter and I do thank you again for dropping in to the blog.

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    • Dave says:

      If WE choose a day or a feast in which to supposedly honor God then we have chosen our OWN way — not God’s Way. If we cannot honor the DAY that God Chose or the Feasts that God Established, then we do not truly love God but ourselves. Nothing was supposed to be changed with the advent of the Christian dispensation.

      The Christ whose name Christians take was a seventh-day Sabbath keeper and also kept the Feasts of God. Christ’s Disciples were also seventh-day Sabbath keepers and also kept the Feasts of God — not those set down by the Roman Papal Power.

      Don’t take Christ’s Name and then not follow His Example for that would be taking His Name in vain — a direct violation of the Ten Commandments.

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  22. Jacquelyn says:

    HalleuYah, for being brace enough to accept this wonderful Covenant that He
    has given to welcome to the family of Covenant Keepers.

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  24. Richard Fairbrother says:

    Love this man and his family. Truth is prevailing. I was at one time blinded with traditions and customs and I admit that at first it was hard to separate from them . But as the father gently started opening my eyes and I started studying deeper I realize that there is more than what most denominations are teaching. Thank you Scott for your willingness to follow the truth of the word and spreading it to the flock.

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  25. Chris a sinner saved by grace says:

    I always hear from my Christian brothers and sisters that the moral law of the Torah is still binding for believers but the work on the cross annulled the temple services i.e. ceremonial laws. Is this true? The problem with this view is that there are no category distinctions in the Law of Moses for civil, moral, and ceremonial commandments. The commands are intertwined throughout the Torah. Sure we can try to categorize them but the Law of Moses makes no such provision. Also, Scripture is clear. If you violate one, you are guilty of all (James 2:1). There is much confusion on what was and was not accomplished on the cross. A topic for which I am fascinated with and continue to study the temple services. I have learned so much about this topic since my Sunday pew days, but still have only scratched the surface of this deep, deep topic

    Here are some points to ponder that may challenge your and the churchs’ view of the cross and the temple. Acts 6:7 which happened in AD 33-34 states that many priests came to faith. Priests in the temple became believers? It doesn’t say former priests, these were active priests in an active temple three years after Christs burial and resurrection. Acts 21:20 states that thousands of Jews believed who are zealous for the Law of Moses. This is over 20 years after the death of Christ yet thousands of believers are zealous for the Law of Moses. Acts 21:21-26 has Paul agreeing to take a Nazarate vow (shaving head) to prove publicly to the Jerusalem Council that he did not teach Gentiles to forsake the Law of Moses. What?!?! The guy who everyone quotes that the Law of Moses was abandoned is going to go to the temple which is supposedly in contrast to the work on the cross and take a Nazarate vow to prove before God and man that he did not teach anyone contrary to the Law of Moses.

    We have some serious problems here. The book of Acts and the apostle Paul which the church uses extensively to support their erroneous doctrine that the Law of Moses is abandoned shows that 1st century believers were keeping temple services, while following and teaching the Law of Moses decades after Christ’s resurrection.

    We have some serious problems here folks. I guess the 1st century believers, many of whom may have witnessed Christ’s teachings first hand, didn’t get the church memo that states we are free in Christ from the Torah by virtue of the cross and grace. I wont detail the verses that discuss the 3rd temple that will return during the millennial reign of Christ. Yes, the temple that was abolished at the cross will return during Christ’s reign on Earth.

    The Bible has a lot of square pegs that won’t fit into the round holes of Christian doctrine. If one’s doctrine doesn’t align to the entirety of Scripture, it is flawed and in error.

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    • Chris a sinner saved by grace says:

      I just wanted to post a follow-up to my post above. Please understand, I don’t have or claim to have all the answers. I attended Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary/College and believed, wrote numerous papers, and preached mainstream Christian doctrine. I get it…trust me I do.

      However, we are missing some huge pieces in our understanding of what was and was not accomplished on the cross. Do I believe our sins were atoned for on the cross – Absolutely. Do I believe it is only through grace that we are saved – Absolutely. Do I believe that works of the Law of Moses can save someone – Absolutely NOT!!! Do I believe that we are called to the Law of Moses in obedience and love and that it is a source of blessing, good health, and safety in this life – Absolutely.

      However, we have those closest to our Savior finding no issue with the temple coexisting and not diminishing the work that Christ did on the cross. We need to humbly except that we don’t have the answers and may be in error. We may never have the answers in this life, unless He returns, because so much has been lost since the destruction of the temple in AD 70 and the subsequent diaspora. One thing is certain, we don’t hear of any of the disciples, Paul, nor historical writings putting the temple and the work of the cross at odds. We have record of active Levitical priests coming into the faith during an active temple period. Apparently they didn’t see any issue. Can I explain it, not completely but I am making progress. Just some food for thought.

      Peace and blessing to all of you in the name of our Lord and Savior – Jesus Christ/Yeshua HaMashiach.

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  26. During the time of the New Testament events and the earthly lifetime of Yahushua and His chosen Apostles and their successors and assembly members until the changes to the calendar introduced by the Pagan Roman, Constantine and also Hillel 2, the Synagogue, Israel and followers of Yahushua were still living according to the Lunar Calendar. The dates of observing Sabbath and the other Torah Festivals were therefore celebrated accordingly. Today’s Jewish Saturday so-called “Sabbath” follows the Pagan Roman dating.

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  27. Patti Piero says:

    I believe what you’ve done and doing is amazing! ! I belong to a small Messianic congregation ,Beit ha Kavod (house of glory) in Canton Ohio who prays continually for the church to find truth. If I could suggest a great Rabbi Eddie Chumney Hebraic roots ministry is an awesome teacher. You can find him on you tube and he also has heebrootsradio.com. I pray Father continues to guide you in your transition. Shalom

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  28. A NOTE ABOUT THE ROMAN-HILLEL (2) SATURDAY (SO-CALLED) “SABBATH”.
    The last president of the Sanhedrin (Hillel II) was compelled under the threat of persecution to rationalize and comply with Constantine and subsequently instituted his fixed-week calendar. This effectively established for all future generations of Jews the calendar that continues to be observed by nearly all Jews today. The Orthodox Rabbinic idea that there has been an unbroken consecutive chain of the current day seven-day Gregorian weeks from the time of Creation is a lie. Historical evidence makes it obvious that the calendar of the Jews from the time of Moses, through the time of Yahushua and up until the time of Hillel II, was a Lunar calendar. The months (moonths) were established by the cycle of the moon (starting with New Moon) and weeks were 4 divisions of the month that renewed with each month. This fact is well documented by Jewish historians themselves. It was YHVH’s established calendar of natural cycles that anyone could read. The Lunar Calendar could be read as easily as a day is observed by the cycle of sunrises and a year is observed by the cycle of seasons. It is an accurate calendar that cannot be lost to gaps and mistakes in record keeping, or by travel around the world (which can cause the loss or gain of a day in record keeping), but one that can be read and reset at any time – even today. It is the natural calendar of the four Quarterly Phases of the Moon that was observed by Yahushua Himself and His early followers to rightly determine the appearance of Sabbath. It is good to remember again that when the Creator gave us His Sabbath He also ensured that it would not be lost to future generations by wisely anchoring it to the Moon. (Genesis 1:14; Psalms 104:19; 89:37; Colossians 2:16). N.B, Since Biblical times the holy Sabbath has ALWAYS fallen on the following dates of the Lunar Month: 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th. Shalom · Ladysmith ·

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    • Pete Rambo says:

      That all sounds good until you acknowledge that Yeshua was stricken on Wednesday, meaning either, it wasn’t the day of Preparation as Scripture plainly states, or they were celebrating Pesach on the eve of the 13th… further, a consistent date could be given in Lev 23 for your formula to tell the day of First Fruits instead of the ‘first day after the weekly Shabbat’ which further assumes non-weekly Shabbats as in the case of Yeshua.

      To my knowledge there is no historical or Biblical record of the continuous cycle of 7th days going back to before Mt. Sinai. Zero. Zilch. None. Nada.

      At this point I am NOT in any way convicted of a ‘lunar Sabbath’ and I do not promote it on this blog. The MONTH is determined by the new moon. Annual feasts, counting from the first of the month are lunar based. The seventh-day Sabbath, however, is not.

      Blessings

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  29. Rodney says:

    I agree that there is an awakening and I am drawn to Hebrew roots and understanding myself. So much, imo, has been wiped from the English version of the scriptures and as my eyes were opened my whole world paradigm was shattered and now I search for a better understanding. I like the Cepher Bible for now but keep looking, while stuck (for now) in my current religion where I see the fallacy of it’s doctrines.

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  30. Steven Rodrriguy says:

    Amen !!!!!
    Deu 10:16 Therefore circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and be stiff-necked no longer.

    Deu 30:6 And the LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live.

    FATHER Has been asking for our heart from the beginning
    May you walk in SHALOM
    ✡️⚔️✡️

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  31. Michael W Cuber says:

    How wonderful to see people coming out of the world and its traditions, and taking up the Word (Torah) that became Flesh (Yeshua)!
    Shalom in Yeshua HaMeshiach.

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  32. Melissa Dodd says:

    In 1999 my husband and I came out of the AoG church that his Grandfather/preacher started.
    My husband said we are leaving. God is not here. I asked where is He then if not in church?
    He replied “I do not know, but He is not here.
    So that lead me to ask God what does it mean to worship the Father in truth and spirit.
    A very long and exciting path later………..obey the TORAH…… the way, the truth, the life and the light. Just what Yehoshuah or Yeshua said about himself. (psalm 119)
    No man can come to the Father except through Me. I am the Torah, Jesus said in a veiled way.

    We stay at home and listen to the Word of Promise on cd for every Torah portion and the New testament every Sabbath.
    Someone asked us one time who our leader was.
    The Father and his Son that is who are leader is.
    We keep Sabbath, eat clean, remember the Feast and do are best in to obey His word.
    One day we all will be taught the Perfect Truth from Yehoshuah, but for now we all do our best.

    Shalom to all.

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