Was God Deceitful?

It has been a very busy last four or five days and I haven’t really written anything, but the wheels have been turning.

Last week, I posted a very rough cut ‘n’ paste picture dealing with some thoughts on the restored tent of David.  As I meditated on that further, some ramifications began to gel.  Here are a couple thoughts I want to throw on the table for discussion.

First a Scripture:

“In that day I will raise up the fallen [d]booth of David,
And wall up its breaches;
I will also raise up its ruins
And rebuild it as in the days of old;
12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom
And all the [e]nations who are called by My name,”
Declares Yahweh who does this.  Amos 9:11-12

  • If Yahweh’s plan from the beginning was not a restored booth, or tent, of David, then He was deceitful in His planning/prophesying.
  • If the P’shat of the Tanakh is not fulfilled, then it is/was intentionally misleading.

The simple point is this:

is God a liarOf course, the same point holds true for any number of prophecies both fulfilled and unfulfilled.  If those are not fulfilled literally, unless they are clearly stated in metaphorical language, then God makes Himself out to be a liar.


About Pete Rambo

Details in 'About' page @ natsab.wordpress.com Basically, husband of one, father of four. Pastor x 11 years, former business and military background. Micro-farmer. Messianic believer in Yeshua haMashiach!
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3 Responses to Was God Deceitful?

  1. Last year I had a series of conversations with a former ministry associate about the applicability of Torah to all believers in Yeshua. Eventually our discussions centered on Shabbat, with me taking the point that it is a commandment of YHVH which He gave as a sign of His covenant with His people for all time, and therefore all His people (Christians included) are obligated to obey Him in this. My friend countered with a point about the Tabernacle of David, saying that he and others have been called by the Lord to raise up this fallen tent by instituting 24/7 praise and worship in the Body of Christ. His point: that this particular calling was for him and his associates, not for the Body at large, and that it would be unreasonable for him to expect the entire Body to follow him in this work. By extention, therefore, I was unreasonable in expecting the entire Body to keep Shabbat.
    All I could do was reiterate that the Fourth Commandment is a command from God Himself to the entire Body. It didn’t occur to me until later that in the prophecy as given by Amos and as quoted by James in Acts 15, YHVH says He will raise up the fallen tent, meaning that it’s something He Himself, and not any human being, will do. Thus it is presumption for us to try to do what God has reserved for Himself, and it is foolishness to disregard what He has required of us.


    • Pete Rambo says:


      It is amazing how many things we do that are wrong because we do not mine the depths of the Word. Indeed, our Father is working in this day to raise up the tent, but we have to be willing to follow Him.

      Shalom and welcome!!


  2. The spiritualization of the Scripture is deceitful because it seems to allow for “Anything goes” type behavior and that is lawlessness or iniquity. And this attitude leads to lawlessness and hurt feelings on the part of the people dealing with people who are doing what ever they want to in their relations with others.


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